The thing is that the Early Christian Church was composed of Jews and perhaps Converts to Judaism. The early Church met in synagogues until they were kicked out by the other Jews later on. Non-Jews first started being converted by Paul after Jesus was crucified and Christianity only became associated as a Goyish religion after Constantine made it Roman. Therefore, Jesus’ parables would have been understood by the Jewish apostles that they are the Jewish replacements for the Pharisees, Priests and Scribe. It’s not about Jews being rejected by God in favor of the Gentiles. Pagan Gentiles weren’t accepted by… Read more »
No, actually no. Nearly every heretical American misunderstanding is based on trying to understand or reverse engineer “how the Jews would understand it” instead of just reading what it says.
Bill Carson
August 26, 2022 1:43 pm
Air traffic controllers weren’t just random people, they were 100% white men.
I hope he starts up an odysse stream or something so we can give him someone to get back on his feets again.
Slakki
August 26, 2022 1:16 pm
They’re rehabbing Gavin.
Clout on table.
CommentBot
August 26, 2022 12:56 pm
Yes, you now understand the religious implications of “the jews” better than 90% of American Christians. Yes, there are a lot of gay ways they try to say that parable means something else. The arguments are really bad and don’t stand up to any kind of push back. It’s amazing how when you look at these things, what Christ said or what’s written elsewhere, and you’re like “oh wow it really just says that.” And it’s like yes. But there’s this assumption that American Christians have gone over and thought through everything you come across 1000x and know the “real… Read more »
The thing is that the Early Christian Church was composed of Jews and perhaps Converts to Judaism. The early Church met in synagogues until they were kicked out by the other Jews later on. Non-Jews first started being converted by Paul after Jesus was crucified and Christianity only became associated as a Goyish religion after Constantine made it Roman. Therefore, Jesus’ parables would have been understood by the Jewish apostles that they are the Jewish replacements for the Pharisees, Priests and Scribe. It’s not about Jews being rejected by God in favor of the Gentiles. Pagan Gentiles weren’t accepted by… Read more »
Abe Foxman knew better than to do this e-drama crap. Greenblatt just can’t help himself.
RobertSpeer
August 26, 2022 12:10 pm
The word Jesse was looking for was canon. Most of the books of the Old Testament were written centuries after the purported events were said to occur.
SowellMan
August 26, 2022 12:07 pm
So it’s Sad, you see.
A little biblical humor for you there.
Tyrontavius
August 26, 2022 12:07 pm
So, what Mike is calling a contradiction here really isn’t. Christ’s use of analogy in one instance not applying in another is fairly common to how every human speaks. If I say Mike’s eyes are beady like a shark’s, it wouldn’t be inconsistent to later deny that Mike is a large carnivorous fish.
It’s more than a little frustrating to see a smart guy like Mike pretending not to know that not every aspect of an analogy applies to every conversation someone has over the course of three years.
If you’re Christian and primarily frustrated by what Mike said here you should examine your priorities. Dude just admitted to a misunderstanding by exegeting one of Christ’s parables.
I don’t believe I said it was a primary frustration, much less the primary frustration. Just that it was frustrating.
As for being frustrated by inconsistent reasoning from a commentator I enjoy listening to, you’re welcome to think that is an issue of priorities. I disagree.
There are seeming incongruencies though. Why did Christ refuse the temptation of the bread in the desert, yet justify his disciples who were picking grain on the Sabbath?
There are a LOT of questions like this that have answers. You can’t take Mike’s sense away from him. Some people won’t budge an inch from what they believe to be the truth. That’s fine. If you believe it’s true then you shouldn’t have a problem with letting it resolve itself. It is an issue of priorities.
You seem to be under the impression the point of my comment was an all encompassing refutation of atheism. That seems like a serious and intentional overreach on your part. For the third time, my issue is with the blatantly inconsistent reasoning. I’d have had the frustration if he applied this reasoning to any document.
If you actually believed that, presumably you’d stop talking altogether. You felt enough of an adverse reaction to bad reasoning being pointed out to reply to me, so you seemingly don’t actually believe the narrative you’re trying to sell here.
I’m replying because you’re de facto speaking on behalf of Christ and I don’t think, feel, or intuit your response is congruent with what His would be. Mike is speaking on behalf of the truth that he knows, which is the same, but he doesn’t go beyond himself in doing so.
>you’re de facto speaking on behalf of Christ
Lmao. What?
I have never said or even implied anything remotely like that. For the fourth time, this isn’t even a theological point. This is a point about logic, and one ironically that Mike has made himself. Bad arguments are bad, irrespective of the position they support.
“This isn’t a theological point” – correct, it’s no point at all.
This kind of behavior is nearly identical to “tying up heavy burdens on others, without lifting a finger to help them lift it.” If you don’t care about the theology, what you’re talking about, anything going on with this – then all that’s really left, to a sensible person in your position, is to get much better at speaking for only yourself. Because that’s a standard you lack. Then your criticisms of how others do so might land.
>“Lmao. What?” is the worst argument of them all! It wasn’t an argument. It was genuine surprise at a brazen lie. >“This isn’t a theological point” – correct, it’s no point at all. If you think pointing out something is incorrect isn’t a point, then you simply don’t know what one or more of these words mean. >This kind of behavior is nearly identical to “tying up heavy burdens on others, without lifting a finger to help them lift it.” If you don’t care about the theology, what you’re talking about, anything going on with this – then all that’s… Read more »
Oh, but you’re not. You’re clearly speaking for all atheists when you say all analogies apply to the same thing. Sadly, most atheists I know would not appreciate you ascribing such a retarded position to them.
Oh, but I am. Don’t speak for me. You already rejected being accountable for speaking for other people. Don’t get to pick and choose.
Why would noticing you’re full of shit make me an atheist, btw? You think every time you open your mouth it’s “thus saith the Lord”? Not remotely, buddy. You’re a petty, ankle biting nag with no insight.
The jewish lack of self awareness is always astounding…
You do not get to accuse me of speaking for all Christians, much less for Christ, based solely on the schizophrenia that is endemic to your people, and then cry when I do the same to you.
Feel free to quote anything from me remotely resembling a claim that I was speaking for anyone other than myself. But of course we both know you won’t, because you jews are incapable of interacting with others without scumbag tactics like putting words in other people’s mouths.
Sven, have Mike read the wiki early life on Tom Lantos.
verratkreuzritter
August 26, 2022 11:49 am
when I went through Orthodox confirmation they said how it was straight up and taught supersessionism, this is technically true for Catholicism but some gays try to say Vatican 2 says otherwise it doesn’t actually. As for the thing about Jews being 300 AD that’s when Talmudic Judaism came into existence because the Talmud didn’t exist before but the Pharisees were basically just the precursor where they came up with Jewish legalisms for why they were allowed to do extremely immoral things. Then both Orthodox and Catholicism would say they aren’t living institutions, despite all the work to subvert Catholicism… Read more »
I’m Catholic and trust me when I say this that give the Eastern Orthodox Church another 15-20 years and it will be pozzed just like the Catholic Church. Until jewish influence is removed from White European countries then expect religious, education, government, and cultural centers to be infected and filled with Talmudry.
there’s always going to be a core of truth in both Orthodoxy and Catholicism that can’t be subverted but the chaff will be, in the same way that white race has a core of truth in people like us but the chaff have become jewish slaves. That’s how it’s going to be for everything good until we can erase this menace from us
300 AD or whatever the exact date was just when the Talmud was finalized and became a closed canon; it was in the process of being written for centuries prior to that. Judaism existed prior to that, just as Christianity existed before the Old and New Testament books were formed into an official Christian canon.
TRS vocab words –
Scofield Bible
Supersessionism
Pathologize
Retcon
Thank you, brothers!
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See Google drive.
The thing is that the Early Christian Church was composed of Jews and perhaps Converts to Judaism. The early Church met in synagogues until they were kicked out by the other Jews later on. Non-Jews first started being converted by Paul after Jesus was crucified and Christianity only became associated as a Goyish religion after Constantine made it Roman. Therefore, Jesus’ parables would have been understood by the Jewish apostles that they are the Jewish replacements for the Pharisees, Priests and Scribe. It’s not about Jews being rejected by God in favor of the Gentiles. Pagan Gentiles weren’t accepted by… Read more »
No, actually no. Nearly every heretical American misunderstanding is based on trying to understand or reverse engineer “how the Jews would understand it” instead of just reading what it says.
Air traffic controllers weren’t just random people, they were 100% white men.
Sven is bearing false witness lol.
When does Cantwell get out of prison?
Honestly I thought he’d be in a halfway house by now, last I heard, which was around the time of the cville trial.
I hope he starts up an odysse stream or something so we can give him someone to get back on his feets again.
They’re rehabbing Gavin.
Clout on table.
Yes, you now understand the religious implications of “the jews” better than 90% of American Christians. Yes, there are a lot of gay ways they try to say that parable means something else. The arguments are really bad and don’t stand up to any kind of push back. It’s amazing how when you look at these things, what Christ said or what’s written elsewhere, and you’re like “oh wow it really just says that.” And it’s like yes. But there’s this assumption that American Christians have gone over and thought through everything you come across 1000x and know the “real… Read more »
That ~90% figure is going down rapidly, by the way.
The thing is that the Early Christian Church was composed of Jews and perhaps Converts to Judaism. The early Church met in synagogues until they were kicked out by the other Jews later on. Non-Jews first started being converted by Paul after Jesus was crucified and Christianity only became associated as a Goyish religion after Constantine made it Roman. Therefore, Jesus’ parables would have been understood by the Jewish apostles that they are the Jewish replacements for the Pharisees, Priests and Scribe. It’s not about Jews being rejected by God in favor of the Gentiles. Pagan Gentiles weren’t accepted by… Read more »
Literally a just so story. Read the epistles.
The ADL is jumping into the Keffals/KiwiFarms thing and getting roasted in the replies. https://twitter.com/ADL/status/1562490784188100608
Abe Foxman knew better than to do this e-drama crap. Greenblatt just can’t help himself.
The word Jesse was looking for was canon. Most of the books of the Old Testament were written centuries after the purported events were said to occur.
So it’s Sad, you see.
A little biblical humor for you there.
So, what Mike is calling a contradiction here really isn’t. Christ’s use of analogy in one instance not applying in another is fairly common to how every human speaks. If I say Mike’s eyes are beady like a shark’s, it wouldn’t be inconsistent to later deny that Mike is a large carnivorous fish.
It’s more than a little frustrating to see a smart guy like Mike pretending not to know that not every aspect of an analogy applies to every conversation someone has over the course of three years.
If you’re Christian and primarily frustrated by what Mike said here you should examine your priorities. Dude just admitted to a misunderstanding by exegeting one of Christ’s parables.
I don’t believe I said it was a primary frustration, much less the primary frustration. Just that it was frustrating.
As for being frustrated by inconsistent reasoning from a commentator I enjoy listening to, you’re welcome to think that is an issue of priorities. I disagree.
There are seeming incongruencies though. Why did Christ refuse the temptation of the bread in the desert, yet justify his disciples who were picking grain on the Sabbath?
There are a LOT of questions like this that have answers. You can’t take Mike’s sense away from him. Some people won’t budge an inch from what they believe to be the truth. That’s fine. If you believe it’s true then you shouldn’t have a problem with letting it resolve itself. It is an issue of priorities.
Great prep today.
You seem to be under the impression the point of my comment was an all encompassing refutation of atheism. That seems like a serious and intentional overreach on your part. For the third time, my issue is with the blatantly inconsistent reasoning. I’d have had the frustration if he applied this reasoning to any document.
Ok, so you’re frustrated and no one’s understanding benefits from it.
If you actually believed that, presumably you’d stop talking altogether. You felt enough of an adverse reaction to bad reasoning being pointed out to reply to me, so you seemingly don’t actually believe the narrative you’re trying to sell here.
I’m replying because you’re de facto speaking on behalf of Christ and I don’t think, feel, or intuit your response is congruent with what His would be. Mike is speaking on behalf of the truth that he knows, which is the same, but he doesn’t go beyond himself in doing so.
>you’re de facto speaking on behalf of Christ
Lmao. What?
I have never said or even implied anything remotely like that. For the fourth time, this isn’t even a theological point. This is a point about logic, and one ironically that Mike has made himself. Bad arguments are bad, irrespective of the position they support.
“Lmao. What?” is the worst argument of them all!
“This isn’t a theological point” – correct, it’s no point at all.
This kind of behavior is nearly identical to “tying up heavy burdens on others, without lifting a finger to help them lift it.” If you don’t care about the theology, what you’re talking about, anything going on with this – then all that’s really left, to a sensible person in your position, is to get much better at speaking for only yourself. Because that’s a standard you lack. Then your criticisms of how others do so might land.
>“Lmao. What?” is the worst argument of them all! It wasn’t an argument. It was genuine surprise at a brazen lie. >“This isn’t a theological point” – correct, it’s no point at all. If you think pointing out something is incorrect isn’t a point, then you simply don’t know what one or more of these words mean. >This kind of behavior is nearly identical to “tying up heavy burdens on others, without lifting a finger to help them lift it.” If you don’t care about the theology, what you’re talking about, anything going on with this – then all that’s… Read more »
Oh, then how about *I* find it frustrating how incredibly Talmudic your responses are and how wrong everything you say is.
Just speaking for myself, here.
Oh, but you’re not. You’re clearly speaking for all atheists when you say all analogies apply to the same thing. Sadly, most atheists I know would not appreciate you ascribing such a retarded position to them.
Oh, but I am. Don’t speak for me. You already rejected being accountable for speaking for other people. Don’t get to pick and choose.
Why would noticing you’re full of shit make me an atheist, btw? You think every time you open your mouth it’s “thus saith the Lord”? Not remotely, buddy. You’re a petty, ankle biting nag with no insight.
The jewish lack of self awareness is always astounding…
You do not get to accuse me of speaking for all Christians, much less for Christ, based solely on the schizophrenia that is endemic to your people, and then cry when I do the same to you.
Feel free to quote anything from me remotely resembling a claim that I was speaking for anyone other than myself. But of course we both know you won’t, because you jews are incapable of interacting with others without scumbag tactics like putting words in other people’s mouths.
Oh gotcha lol
And actually doing it *correctly*
Sven, have Mike read the wiki early life on Tom Lantos.
when I went through Orthodox confirmation they said how it was straight up and taught supersessionism, this is technically true for Catholicism but some gays try to say Vatican 2 says otherwise it doesn’t actually. As for the thing about Jews being 300 AD that’s when Talmudic Judaism came into existence because the Talmud didn’t exist before but the Pharisees were basically just the precursor where they came up with Jewish legalisms for why they were allowed to do extremely immoral things. Then both Orthodox and Catholicism would say they aren’t living institutions, despite all the work to subvert Catholicism… Read more »
I’m Catholic and trust me when I say this that give the Eastern Orthodox Church another 15-20 years and it will be pozzed just like the Catholic Church. Until jewish influence is removed from White European countries then expect religious, education, government, and cultural centers to be infected and filled with Talmudry.
there’s always going to be a core of truth in both Orthodoxy and Catholicism that can’t be subverted but the chaff will be, in the same way that white race has a core of truth in people like us but the chaff have become jewish slaves. That’s how it’s going to be for everything good until we can erase this menace from us
300 AD or whatever the exact date was just when the Talmud was finalized and became a closed canon; it was in the process of being written for centuries prior to that. Judaism existed prior to that, just as Christianity existed before the Old and New Testament books were formed into an official Christian canon.
Awesome, can’t wait!
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