Tolkien’s experiences in the trenches in WWI aren’t allegorized in LOTR beyond very basic “war sucks” feelings and maybe the blasted landscape of the battlefield trenches being similar to his descriptions of Mordor and the Dead Marshes. That’s it. Germans aren’t orcs. Tolkien never felt that way about Germany. LOTR is not a political allegory. Not everything should be viewed through the lens of politics. “WWI experiences shaped Tolkien’s writings” is not at all the same thing as LOTR being some kind of political allegory about the world wars. I think Moike may be misinterpreting something he half remembers reading… Read more »
good
February 21, 2022 5:24 pm
I always read the Mord-Sith as being an allegory for cat ladies “Wizard’s First Rule: people are stupid.” Richard and Kahlan frowned even more. “People are stupid; given proper motivation, almost anyone will believe almost anything. Because people are stupid, they will believe a lie because they want to believe it’s true, or because they are afraid it might be true. People’s heads are full of knowledge, facts, and beliefs, and most of it is false, yet they think it all true. People are stupid; they can only rarely tell the difference between a lie and the truth, and yet… Read more »
H.P. Hovercraft
February 21, 2022 5:18 pm
Mike I don’t remember Ayn Rand in Moon is a Harsh Mistress, except very briefly I think he might have mentioned “Randians” in passing when mentioning the various anarchist, libertarian, socialist, Marxist, and other political philosophies and factions which were influential amongst the population of the Moon colony.
good
February 21, 2022 4:50 pm
Thank you guys you just gave me an excuse to re read the sword of truth
Joon
February 21, 2022 4:17 pm
Sven can your wifey please recommend books? I love swords and wizards and faeries too but can’t find anything worth a flip so I’ve just read game of thrones 5 times 😑
Veni.Vidi.Vici
February 21, 2022 3:01 pm
Mmmbreb
Also none of us get Obama’s Day off usually. Bankers holiday mostly
Data 1488
February 21, 2022 1:58 pm
One of the best Prep’s ever.
Cormac Ruadri
February 21, 2022 1:42 pm
Russia is right now recognizing the Lugansk and Donetsk republics, which will very likely lead to the overthrow of the Kiev regime. They are at least partially justifying this on a specifically ethnic basis, saying they are defending the Russian people in the region. Can someone please reign in the overly simplistic “jews control every aspect of Russia” narrative. They are effectively going to war with a state entirely comprised of jews. What the hell would the jewish angle on that be exactly that isn’t just lizardmen level absurdity?
Nah, the dissident right is playing chess. Liberals are playing checkers. And conservatives are playing tic-tac-toe-one-in-a-row on a 1×1 board and insisting their opponents go first.
ayynon
February 21, 2022 12:59 pm
The communal family thing seemed such a weird thing to include in The Moon is a Harsh Mistress.
Also, it would fit into today’s TV production world because nearly everyone is a mutt.
Heinlein unfortunately was a theoretical degenerate—ie he didn’t indulge in the degeneracy himself but he looked forward to it in future.
Dearth Maul
February 21, 2022 12:52 pm
Clockwork Orange was gross I really wish I could unsee
ayynon
February 21, 2022 12:49 pm
Mike nailed the appeal of that Seeker show.
ThanosGundam
February 21, 2022 12:37 pm
Tfw Sven is BANNING BOOKS
ThanosGundam
February 21, 2022 12:30 pm
Nigs? I’m my sword shit?
Exile
February 21, 2022 12:21 pm
Heinlein’s “Number of the Beast” is just porn. The older he got the more he wanked and the less his editors dared to un-wank his writing.
The only sci-fi or fantasy author more perverted than Heinlein is Jack Chalker. His “Soul Rider” series is the worst degenerate bullshit I ever started to read then threw up.
Energy🔻Wars
February 21, 2022 12:14 pm
youre totally correct about the WW1 take on tolkien in my opinion. he claimed forever that middle earth is not allegorical but that’s like a shitlib saying white people have no culture: he’s steeped in that culture and it memetically influenced his work, ostensibly unbeknownst to him. all his readers are traumatized by world war propaganda and as such are also steeped in it. the gaps in his allegory, however incidental, are filled in by our zeitgeist. i freely concede this point but it wouldnt matter if the third age (lotr, hobbit) weren’t so on overtly parallel to european history.… Read more »
No being steeped in European culture does not make Tolkien’s work an allegory even unintentionally and there’s no way Germany matches up allegorically to Mordor/Sauron/etc. It doesn’t make any sense. Germans aren’t orcs. If you want allegory, then the World Wars are an allegory for the kin strife in Gondor and the break up of Arnor — the Europeans fighting amongst themselves and weakening themselves to the advantage of their mutual enemies. Mike hasn’t read LOTR. He’s quoting alleged scholars who have an agenda, he’s not citing Tolkien’s own writings. I can’t take Mike seriously on these topics because he… Read more »
Adolf Quisling
February 21, 2022 11:58 am
What I actually find funny about Lord of the Rings diversity push is how lazy it is. Given that there canonically exists brown people in the Lord of the Rings universe you could conceivably get away with having a band of good-guy Harad or Rhûn guys condescending to the men of the west about how inferior and primitive their culture is, but nope, that would be 2010-era anti-whiteness. Get ready for nigger elves!
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NormanNC
February 21, 2022 11:57 am
“vaginal access”. Mike directly into the mic: whoooooooooosshhh!!!!
verratkreuzritter
February 21, 2022 11:56 am
I’m guessing you’re thinking of Shannara that ones kinda already dead I think cause it started in 2016, oops nvm
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RobertSpeer
February 21, 2022 11:50 am
What is Jesse insinuating by making his window tall and thin and Mike’s short and fat?
Adolf Quisling
February 21, 2022 11:49 am
WHAT THE FUCK! I checked Jean-Luc Brunel’s early life yesterday, and it said he was fucking jewish. NOW IT’S FUCKING GONE! I SHIT YOU NOT!
dhouston1125
February 21, 2022 11:46 am
Wizards and swords > guitars
Energy🔻Wars
February 21, 2022 11:44 am
foreign gayops each have their own cultural tells to them. a heavy-handed ignorance that’s tracible back to the nation of origin if viewed with the right kind of eyes.
One thing I hope comes out of this Covid shit, especially after what jsut went down in Ottawa, is that normie whites will finally start getting it into their thick skulls that police exists primarily to beat the shit out of lawful whites getting uppity about their rights, and that fighitng crime is a tartiary concern at the best of times. In fact the chance of you getting a knee on your neck (or in your face) as a white person increases proportionality with how decent and upstanding a citizen you are.
Never too late to punish your wife
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Tolkien’s experiences in the trenches in WWI aren’t allegorized in LOTR beyond very basic “war sucks” feelings and maybe the blasted landscape of the battlefield trenches being similar to his descriptions of Mordor and the Dead Marshes. That’s it. Germans aren’t orcs. Tolkien never felt that way about Germany. LOTR is not a political allegory. Not everything should be viewed through the lens of politics. “WWI experiences shaped Tolkien’s writings” is not at all the same thing as LOTR being some kind of political allegory about the world wars. I think Moike may be misinterpreting something he half remembers reading… Read more »
I always read the Mord-Sith as being an allegory for cat ladies “Wizard’s First Rule: people are stupid.” Richard and Kahlan frowned even more. “People are stupid; given proper motivation, almost anyone will believe almost anything. Because people are stupid, they will believe a lie because they want to believe it’s true, or because they are afraid it might be true. People’s heads are full of knowledge, facts, and beliefs, and most of it is false, yet they think it all true. People are stupid; they can only rarely tell the difference between a lie and the truth, and yet… Read more »
Mike I don’t remember Ayn Rand in Moon is a Harsh Mistress, except very briefly I think he might have mentioned “Randians” in passing when mentioning the various anarchist, libertarian, socialist, Marxist, and other political philosophies and factions which were influential amongst the population of the Moon colony.
Thank you guys you just gave me an excuse to re read the sword of truth
Sven can your wifey please recommend books? I love swords and wizards and faeries too but can’t find anything worth a flip so I’ve just read game of thrones 5 times 😑
Mmmbreb
Also none of us get Obama’s Day off usually. Bankers holiday mostly
One of the best Prep’s ever.
Russia is right now recognizing the Lugansk and Donetsk republics, which will very likely lead to the overthrow of the Kiev regime. They are at least partially justifying this on a specifically ethnic basis, saying they are defending the Russian people in the region. Can someone please reign in the overly simplistic “jews control every aspect of Russia” narrative. They are effectively going to war with a state entirely comprised of jews. What the hell would the jewish angle on that be exactly that isn’t just lizardmen level absurdity?
Are you new here?
Well, he doesn’t have an avatar yet
Fug Niggas!
Conservatives are playing checkers while the dissident right plays chess.
Nah, the dissident right is playing chess. Liberals are playing checkers. And conservatives are playing tic-tac-toe-one-in-a-row on a 1×1 board and insisting their opponents go first.
The communal family thing seemed such a weird thing to include in The Moon is a Harsh Mistress.
Also, it would fit into today’s TV production world because nearly everyone is a mutt.
There is a reference to John Galt in the novel.
Heinlein unfortunately was a theoretical degenerate—ie he didn’t indulge in the degeneracy himself but he looked forward to it in future.
Clockwork Orange was gross I really wish I could unsee
Mike nailed the appeal of that Seeker show.
Tfw Sven is BANNING BOOKS
Nigs? I’m my sword shit?
Heinlein’s “Number of the Beast” is just porn. The older he got the more he wanked and the less his editors dared to un-wank his writing.
The only sci-fi or fantasy author more perverted than Heinlein is Jack Chalker. His “Soul Rider” series is the worst degenerate bullshit I ever started to read then threw up.
youre totally correct about the WW1 take on tolkien in my opinion. he claimed forever that middle earth is not allegorical but that’s like a shitlib saying white people have no culture: he’s steeped in that culture and it memetically influenced his work, ostensibly unbeknownst to him. all his readers are traumatized by world war propaganda and as such are also steeped in it. the gaps in his allegory, however incidental, are filled in by our zeitgeist. i freely concede this point but it wouldnt matter if the third age (lotr, hobbit) weren’t so on overtly parallel to european history.… Read more »
No being steeped in European culture does not make Tolkien’s work an allegory even unintentionally and there’s no way Germany matches up allegorically to Mordor/Sauron/etc. It doesn’t make any sense. Germans aren’t orcs. If you want allegory, then the World Wars are an allegory for the kin strife in Gondor and the break up of Arnor — the Europeans fighting amongst themselves and weakening themselves to the advantage of their mutual enemies. Mike hasn’t read LOTR. He’s quoting alleged scholars who have an agenda, he’s not citing Tolkien’s own writings. I can’t take Mike seriously on these topics because he… Read more »
What I actually find funny about Lord of the Rings diversity push is how lazy it is. Given that there canonically exists brown people in the Lord of the Rings universe you could conceivably get away with having a band of good-guy Harad or Rhûn guys condescending to the men of the west about how inferior and primitive their culture is, but nope, that would be 2010-era anti-whiteness. Get ready for nigger elves!
“vaginal access”. Mike directly into the mic: whoooooooooosshhh!!!!
I’m guessing you’re thinking of Shannara that ones kinda already dead I think cause it started in 2016, oops nvm
What is Jesse insinuating by making his window tall and thin and Mike’s short and fat?
WHAT THE FUCK! I checked Jean-Luc Brunel’s early life yesterday, and it said he was fucking jewish. NOW IT’S FUCKING GONE! I SHIT YOU NOT!
Wizards and swords > guitars
foreign gayops each have their own cultural tells to them. a heavy-handed ignorance that’s tracible back to the nation of origin if viewed with the right kind of eyes.
Tolkien firmly disliked allegory
yea but the end results are the same.
that’s like saying starship troopers is satire.
Totally fair, yeah
One thing I hope comes out of this Covid shit, especially after what jsut went down in Ottawa, is that normie whites will finally start getting it into their thick skulls that police exists primarily to beat the shit out of lawful whites getting uppity about their rights, and that fighitng crime is a tartiary concern at the best of times. In fact the chance of you getting a knee on your neck (or in your face) as a white person increases proportionality with how decent and upstanding a citizen you are.
my comment is in the third position
I did a third position with ur mom
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