Jazz, James, and Borzoi are back for the second half of their deep-dive into the life of Thomas Jefferson, America's Ozymandias. Expanding on American Coup D'Etat and details uncovered in American Mephistopheles (Hamilton Deep-Dive), this deep-dive is both a survey of the political context in which Jefferson lived as much as undertaking Jefferson the man, the sacred cow, the shibboleth that too must fall. If it's Thursday, it's FTN!
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Episode Topics:
00:00:00 - Swamp Status: Not Drained
00:15:00 - Marbury v. Madison
00:45:00 - Barbary Pirates
01:10:00 - Louisiana Purchase
01:35:00 - BREAK
01:36:00 - Indian Pogroms
01:55:00 - Jefferson Scandals
02:36:00 - Jefferson and the Jews
02:59:00 - Outro
I’m not saying indians don’t suck, but they have a birth rate lower than whites, a misegination rate of almost half, a high suicide rate and a small population. They aren’t really a problem because they are dying off
Andrew jackson is my favorite president. Will you guys do him at any point? If he ends up being lame thatd be unfortunate.
I think it’s almost guaranteed that they’re doing a deep dive on him. He’s my favorite too.
Are you going to do a deep dive on Lewis & Clark? And especially the death of Meriwether Lewis?
Lots of interesting things to be had there. Such as the encounters with blonde haired, blue eyed injuns who spoke an old dialect of Welsh…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kira_(title)
What book are you quoting?
What words did you hear?
So you’re not going to list the books?
Granted my bibliomania is sad and alarming, but still!
Sigh….thank you.
“Ends up getting shot by Burr. Well, that’s how that goes.”
LOL! Sounds like some of my relatives!
Just listened to the first episode, great stuff. Looking forward to this episode. Is it fair to say Jeffersonâs anti-elitism created a vacuum of sorts for the Hamilton model to flourish in? I donât mean to hold Jefferson accountable to later historical thought, but his Enlightenment notion of man as a free thinking citizen emancipated through education harkens back to Kant in some ways, and finds a sclerotic terminus in Boaz/Mead. Maybe Iâm over thinking it. I do wonder though, if heâd seen his agrarian polity through a Fichtean rather than a Lockean lens, or had the benefit of Spenglerâs… Read more »
Excellent content borthers
Don’t mess with Andrew Jackson unless you have something I don’t already know; and I will go ahead and in-b-4 you about his adopted Indian son.
Andrew Jackson uber alles
I want to know the truth no matter what! No false idols!
I appreciate these deep dives. Very good stuff on Hamilton. You make a convincing argument that-given what he knew, when he veered from principle and when he didn’t-Jefferson is certainly the man who could have done better. Regarding the discussion of Jackson’s Indian Policy ( 1:47 – 1:50), I think Jackson’s Indian philosophy was quite reasonable for his time. He was open to some level of integration and some small number of them did integrate; that integration was minimal and the assimilation for them was complete. In any event, his policy was clearly effective and hard to question. As… Read more »
Holy crapola. Jefferson’s plot sounds like the precursor to the scam covered in the episode of FTN covering Micro Finance Loans to squatamalans to take ownership of their land and move them around like chess pieces.
I remember the first hint that I was given that all was not as it seemed with the Founding Fathers was in Jim Goad’s first book The Redneck Manifesto:
https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Redneck_Manifesto/YF5U4IkcFS4C?hl=en&gbpv=1&printsec=frontcover
Good discussion. Looking forward to Sunday program.
Yes!! I’ve been waiting for this! Excellent work lads
Boy I wish the file didnât stop playing every hour
Don’t know what to tell you guy. Can’t get any simpler than downloading a file and listening to it locally. Try a different device.
Neither of the pre-installed apps on my Android work well, even if I download audio files. If I pause it and put it down, 1 in 4 times, it will be back at the beginning. I don’t have this problem with Podcast Addict. I don’t like its name, but other than that, it is good app that performs well. You can switch back and forth between files and it keeps its place for you.
Get MX Player. Not only does it work, it also has speed control.
Thanks, will check that out. Speed control would be bonus for sure
Press S to spit for the betrayal in Haiti.
Paaaart twoooo…
“Thomas Jefferson was the biggest disappointment since my son.”
Looking at the virtual tour of Monticello… http://explorer.monticello.org/virtualtour/
In the entrance hall, Jefferson’s collection of artifacts is comprised of what we would today find in a boojie, Liberal’s home. A map of what looks like Africa or South America, Injun artifacts, African tribalism sculptures and low…. A bust of Alexander Hamilton.
Oh man.
I have four busts in my home:
A lot of the founders had a fetish for Indian stuff, the “noble savage” and all that. I guess it really continued into the 1950s with Westerns. It’s easy to see how that became the backbone of Mormonism.
Are we gonna do an Andrew Jackson DD? I do know he was a coal burner…. f*#k… I really want a historical figure to latch on to as my favorite founding father although I think he came later. Teddy has always been my favorite president
I’m going to say that he waa not a coal burner because he had every reason not to and his political enemiea had every reason to say he was.
“I do know he was a coal burner”
WTF? Citation NOW!
1 like = 1 fuck libertarians
I’m only halfway through this excellent episode, but I really hope that they will review their top 10 favorite based tweets from the original Bad Orange (his hair, of course) Man!
One thing that needs looking into is just how Jewish the early tobacco trade was, I remember seeing a Twitter thread on it and according to said thread around 70% of tobacco plantations were owned by Jews so excessive fees on plantation owners not as bad because of how many Jews there were
The Inquisition ???
Hey, Torquemada, whaddaya say?
I just got back from the auto-da-fĂŠ
Auto-da-fĂŠ, what’s an auto-da-fĂŠ?
It’s what you oughtn’t to do but you do anyway.
Not plan trusting here, cause I got no dog in the fight, but there is also a theory that it was Jeff Jefferson’s younger brother Randolph, that fathered the octaroons.
This week’s cover art makes it look like the rioters made it to Monicello. Might as well, Jefferson owned slaves.
Astute observation. Is there a higher resolution available, Frontierland? I hope FTN is featuring yours and See Kyle’s art with the best possible clarity! They are lucky to have such talented contributors such as yourselves…
Here you go good sir…
https://i.imgur.com/YaNSOIy.jpg
God, you’re awesome!
I hope you eke out some righteous shekels as you make your way through the ruins of Empire.
Thank you for your vision.
Tried to stay away from it looking like that directly, but like many ruins in Greece & Rome, signs of war are visible.
I’ve stayed in bed & breakfast’s that looked less hospitable than the slave quarters at Jefferson’s Poplar Forest estate… Just sayin’.
Taking the lottery lump sum payment is low time preference, not high, if you put the money in a trust and live off the interest youâll be better off than if you take yearly payments from the government for 20 years.
At the rate things are going who knows if the government is going to honor those payments for 20 years. A few years ago Illinois was talking about stopping lottery payments due to a state budget crisis, IIRC.
I tried getting my dad to listen to this and it’s too much for him. I think like they say in the Matrix, some minds are too old to unplug from the system. Even I have a hard time accepting that it’s all been fake and gay from the beginning.
I can relate. Sometimes it seems like I’m making progress with my dad, but then he’ll revert to all his previous positions. It’s pretty frustrating.
Itâs like their brains could only hold so much info up to a certain point and after that every night they go to sleep itâs like a reset button to the previous day.
Just try to get them to understand the system is Anti-white and that might be the best you can do.
Itâs better than nothing.
One of my regular customers is a boomer (local businessesman) who always touts his history degree specialized in Amurrican history. I gave him a copy of Beardâs Economic interpretation of muh constitution after telling him he was full of shit. He apparently read it and hasnât talked to me since. ?
I have that same reaction from my older brother. Very frustrating. As for having a hard time accepting that America’s always been fake and gay well that just explains to me, in my reading of American history, why nothing seemed to work right. I always noticed how fucked-up America has been. All the pieces fell into place.
Lincoln deep dive?? Gotta do it
I recommend “America’s Caesar” by Greg Loren Durand on this subject. Many excellent primary sources.
Followed closely by a Confederacy deep dive… I shudder at the thought, but it is inevitable
Lincoln tends to stay over here…
There’s a lot of damaging material on Lincoln available. Since he was one of the primary grave diggers of White America, a deep dive expose on him is essential.
Have you read â Red Republicans and Lincoln’s Marxistsâ? I was suggested it some time ago but didnât pick it up.
4th of July BBQ is going to hear the truth about Jefferson. Perfect conversation for the holiday.
8:00 Yep
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Love these historical deep dives. I donât care if theyâre painfully redpilling. We need to know what really happened to better understand whatâs going on today and what will happen in the future. The devil is in the details. And yes that is an antisemitic dog whistle.
PS. When you guys do your Inquisition deep dive… Cristobal Colon. Painful red pills.
“I donât care if theyâre painfully redpilling.”
I spent my entire life coping and what did it ever get me? I’ll take the pain in exchange for the enlightenment.
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Hmm, TFA code error on account, will call customer support tomorrow
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