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Abu Ghraib was never going to compromise the war effort. None of the shit Sven mentions as being covered by the media ever was going to. The idea that we would have pulled out because of any media coverage of any scandal whatsoever is pretty grug. How long did normies watch footage of body bags spilling out of the jungle before they finally turned their sentiments against Vietnam? And even then, the power structure took its sweet ass time to wrap up the conflict. The “Free Press“ is “free” to posture however it wants, and to bank off of ratings… Read more »
Abu grabe was publicized to demoralise Americans in order to grease the skids for Obama and mass immigration. Same with the waterboarding shit, which Sven forgot to mention.
The same people who make the decision to go to war control enough of the media that the media is free to vary in its posture and coverage. It has been this way since at least the Spanish American War so its weird that Sven is insistent that this was somehow not the case in Iraq2.
Trump really is Crassus, the real-estate money man who demagogued his way to power in the last years of the Republic only to get wrecked by starting a war on Persia[undoubtably on the Jews behalf as well].
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Controlling Carnival Cruise Missiles from the Time Share Bunker?
HAIL SPONGEBOB HAIL THE CRUSTY CRAB HAIL VICTORY
Do you guys ever let your hate shine through a bit too strongly in public? I was at my local bar tonight, getting a beer and a burger, but couldn’t finish the fries, and when the waitress says “But people are starving!” I just look at her and say, “I sure hope so.”
“Yes, and unfortunately some of them are huwhite babies”
Marcus here with the correct response. You always counter signal their narrative, you never affirm.
Mike is correct. I distinctly remember even NPR being completely uncritical in the lead-up to war with Iraq. Once we were already involved, criticism came, mostly partisan, aimed at Bush, but by then it wouldn’t matter. We’re STILL in Iraq ffs despite everyone being against it.
The elites have wanted every war.
You are correct. The only people saying otherwise were either too young to remember or were only listening to FOX and Limbaugh as they riled conservatives up against those pesky bleeding heart libruls!
Meanwhile MSNBC was pro war. CNN was pro war. NPR was pushing their own brand of “these poor iraqis need liberation” angle. And so on.
I remember distinctly. It was like living in crazy land.
Mike is right about the Abu-Grabe stuff being anti-White. The precedent was the “Tail-Hook” scandal that was focused exclusively on White males and how they “abused” poor little female Naval officers during a drunken party. While I agree a few should have gotten a reprimand for “Conduct-Unbecoming”, the hue and cry from the women Senators (Especially Pat Schroeder-D) seeking scalps was disgusting. A great many fine White men paid with their careers because they were White and Male Naval Officers.
wow that merchant minute, im converted, death to america.
Bought the book. Gonna have to work on that marketing a little though, goys.
I’m disappointed there is no Jesse & James show…
Sven is right.
Dark times at TRS
Great show gentlemen thank you.
New York Times: we were wrong on Iraq:
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2004/may/26/pressandpublishing.usnews
https://newrepublic.com/minutes/146481/new-york-times-bury-stories-cast-doubt-bushs-iraq-war-push:
Did The New York Times bury stories that cast doubt on Bush’s Iraq War push?At The Intercept, former Times investigative reporter James Risen asserts that the paper’s editorial leadership had squashed stories critical of the Bush administration’s line on Iraq:
Sven you effin boomer get MakeMKV and Handbrake and you can encode all your dvds and blu rays ffs!
You need something to crack the copy protection.
MakeMKV I copied all of my collection and then handbrake converts each into a single mp4
Mike and Sven are both seeing things from a perspective bias and they’re also thinking about different times. They’re talking about the beginning of the war but I feel like Sven’s memory is colored by the later years of the war when the media was universally against the war. Mike is thinking more of 2003 when the media was much more pro-war.
One thing I remember was the media’s disapproval of anti-Muslim sentiment. They were constantly scolding whites for that.
No one dared to even ask the basic question: “wtf does Iraq have to do with 9/11?”
Sometimes I think we forget how much FEAR there was in the air, and how it shut down rational discussion.
The only person I really going on about it was Cynthia Mckinney (since I’m in the Atl area it was a big deal) I just remember being young and wanting blood and I didn’t particularly like blacks or Democrats even then so fuck that lady right? Wouldn’t have mattered anyway. The war was going to happen.
I am beginning to hate political power, we need cultural power.
someone needs to isolate the “I wish a nigga would” drop that Mike said
These bloodsports were just a gayop, to get us exited for next Moike vs desTINY debate.
hopefully he got some practice. He can’t seriously think he can just call Destiny dumb and come out looking good. The guy needs to have his narrative’s frame shattered and Mike is just the guy to do it.
I think the deal with Abu Ghraib is that the MPs were the scapegoats and the people doing some of the interrogations were Israeli glowies.
Media was anti war but we thought they were honest. That is why both Mike and Sven are right.
i think every politician post 1900 are jew puppets to some degree.
They and every american in the military is a spiritual mamzer.
jesus christ, why would the jews insult their own like that?!?!
Douche chills
Why are my two dads fighting? :’(
Dude I don’t like that
Sven is right, the Jews didn’t have absolute control and the liberal Jews had relatively more power over the jignats. We’re now figuring their power out because it is damn obvious and complete.
Allahu Akborthers!
We need a version of the Spongebob theme song to the tune of the American national anthem.
Fitting. And then we need to replace our anthem with something like Turkmenistan’s old anthem. read the lyrics on this and tell me it’s not a thousand times better than what we have.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrFq_4wV31w
It’s like wow how bad Jessy was a Rush Limbaugh listener and how that frames his recollection of the early 2000s
I’m embarrassed that I used to agree with Rush and Hannity that the media is anti-Israel.
Or James Taranto and his Best of the Web column that I read religiously for probably 15 years.
It was painful getting here and breaking away from all that.
Breaking those old shibboleths is a critical part of the red pilling process. I still am finding myself reflexively thinking sometimes.
It’s really difficult to break old habits and conditioning.
I don’t fucking believe that white elites raped slaves, those slaves fucking worshiped them and i know it, like they would rather be slaves in fucking africa. fucking horse shit
like a white man would want to rape a african, what do the numbers say?
The white slaves/indentured servants, ie the Irish, banged the African slaves.
Yuck Fou!
“When people see a strong horse and a weak horse, by nature they like the strong horse”
-Osama bin Laden
In antebellum America, the white man was the strong horse. He wasn’t raping slaves, he was voluntarily laying pipe with house negresses.
The corollary is also true. The reason you have to be super Chad in order to get a qt3.14 white girl now while retarded nogs and soydurans are slaying is because Jewish programming has emasculated the white man.
fascist = chad = normal human male.
Women are generally untrustworthy when there lacks a patriarchy, women are loyal to that only. There is still the implicit idea of western, white patriarchy, and the threat of it rising again, lets keep that flame going. I have no worries for our women as long as we keep ourselves in check.
Remember that most slave owners were Jews. So they would have sex with almost anything, even plants.
I second this take.
Blame the mamzers that brought these negro’s here.
I don’t know man, low IQ sheboons “slaves” to aryan conquerors, such rape, such oppression. What they went through is nothign compared to what their brethren in africa went through under muslim slavery, at least africans got to have kids here, muslims castrated them. I wrote out a grug brained comment, literally no white man today rapes black women. Some historical facts about white men in positions of power having little negresses in their closet = rape? do we have hard evidence that it was rape, like i laid out we have reason to doubt it, why won’t white men… Read more »
I am sure it went on, just not to the extent that my cool wine aunts and their retarded talk show hosts say so, or those fucking jewish movies; they make it seem as if every female slave was raped, no queen would dare feel attraction to those racists who gave them living standards far better then what they would have gotten in their homeland!
The treatment of the Hemmings that Borzoi is describing doesn’t sound like a rape culture. Also, yes non-jews and non-irish were getting freaky with the help. I seriously doubt outright rape was common and was likely very rare. These weren’t some women you met in an alleyway after the bar closed. If they were mistreated it got around to the rest of the bourgeoisie slave owning class and trading slaves around was harder than exchanging parts at the auto store.. And who would want a plaything or mistress that wasn’t into it? Better to seduce a woman with promises of… Read more »
From oil drillers and coal burners, need not be conflated with “rape”.
Yeah its most likely the Jewish slave owners and some desperate Irish slaves that just wanted that nasty sheboon.
Miners in the rocky mountains fucked mules because that’s all they had. It don’t matter, none of this matters.
Desperate exceptions, not bulk rules.
Could it be that they had positions of power, like the ruling class in Britain being pedophiles? You’re giving me people we have a lot of history about, what about the average person; maybe slave owners weren’t the average person? I’m not buying it man, native americans saw my people as gods with shining armor, look at modern day Finland, Finnish women go after high status immigrants more than their own kin, and the men choose down the hierarchy from themselves in Finland. Women want the better patriarchy, its that simple. What about the times when we had white whores?… Read more »
Holy shit, Borzoi chimping out in the comments, and me without my popcorn
>Where did the mulattos come from
I guess you’ve never had a fit and skinny Cameroon chick throw herself at you. It can be hard to resist unless you’re a principled racist (though I surely did).
ffs, it’s not like there aren’t ANY hot African females. Outliers people, outliers. https://i.pinimg.com/originals/66/29/71/66297131f765bf6f7441384561653d46.jpg
Regarding the media and the Iraq war, the media planted stories that supported the narrative leading to war because they wanted the Zionist war and once they got it, drummed up resentment of the war in an effort to discredit W, his christianity, and his ability to enact domestic policies they opposed.
They played both sides and they’re trying to do it to trump and they will use it to discredit whatever harder than a tissue stance on immigration
This is probably accurate. Sven bringing up Kerry really reminded me how much anti war stuff there was. You gotta remember the John Stewart anti war left. The Michael Moore movie etc. I remember people bringing up how Bush is doing this because Saddams assassination attempt on his “daddy”.
Love you Borzoi, wish you loved yourself as much <3
(obv. no homo ffs)
holy shit, the national anthem! also, mike looks more Norwegian the skinnier he gets
Becauss they are lenklets, slav nationalism.
Opening half hour was fire. I love the back and forth. Moar pls
Re the elites predicting Iranian influence in Iraq, I recall a unified Iraq/Iran under the Iranian government in a Tom Clancy book pre 9/11. I cant recall whether it was a full novel or in the back of one of the books like Armored Cav, I haven’t read that shit in twenty years and they’re all in storage.
Anyway, my point is that at least some people saw it as a possibility.
Inshallah, Morrakiu.
I was a 16 year old boomercon in 2003, and supported the war by GW “Big Balls” Bush. Like Sven, I also got the impression that the media was against the war. But more so after the Bath regime was crushed and it didn’t matter anyway.
Digging that nautilius spiral hoodie
Does “sryian” girl live in syria? Wiki says she’s lived in australia since a kid.
why is a nationalist not in her country supporting it in her time of need.
call me a shill but if england or any anglo country had a war id be fighting for its future.
even women and children. thats what makes a people a people. the hardship they suffer together. imagine if during the 30 years war all the Germans went to england until fighting stopped.
i guess its good that she is “based and redpilled” but im so tired of these people
i lived in ukraine two years during the “war” and then i traveled to sweden, us, and poland and see all these ukrainians acting as “refugees” especially in poland.
its so perverse
whoops wrong thread sorry. also i get my comments are subversive im just venting
What country should a White Nationalist live in..?
3 hour TDS!
Back when it wasn’t dark days, we’d get 4 hour Shoahs.
When Jews think they’re untouchable they’re as brazen as any cackling demon from the pits of hell. If Jews thought that now they’d be torturing gentile kids on live television and holding public slave auctions of white girls. Thing is they don’t believe that, they are more desperate now than they ever have been. This is it for them, if they get 110th now, someone WILL finish the job. They either take over the world or get Shoah’d for the last time.
“ If ZOG is so technologically advanced that Irans military can’t even touch it, it means that the jews now discovered that they can do whatever they want to whoever they want and no one can stop them.”- Some goy in the forum.
I enjoyed the argument. I think both are right to an extent, there was a huge portion of fervently anti-Bush commentators and celebrities that also either were really or pretended to be anti-war but the sort of “serious” pundits you’d find in NYT and CNN would use the type of arguments Mike is talking about arguing about methods and bullshit non-issues rather than the war itself.
Death panels argue = Shlomo smiles
That first hour was tiresome I want a 3rd hour friday to make up for that shitshow
That’s how I feel on a constant basis
From what I remember, there was a good mix of pro and anti war sentiment, and a lot of it was along party lines.
Jews still got what they wanted.
I wanna throw out an opinion of mine, and I understand if it’s controversial. I think whites are fundamentally pro war. I think we as a people, especially our males, are blood thirsty and want to fight. Just think of dueling culture of the 1700s and 1800s and the honor culture of fighting to the death in Scandinavian countries. I think we have a fundamental drive to fight for dignity, justice, beauty, and hour personal honor. I think jews play off of this trait to get us to fight their battles. Just like they play off of our sense of… Read more »
This is what I have realized, we are literally built for war. Whites are built for Hatfield and McCoy shit. The greatest moments of Aryan history have been intericene warfare like the Trojan war, the battles between Germania and Rome, the duelling, Battle of Hastings, I mean fuck every war between Aryans has been a tremendous display of heroism and valor. Compare that with Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc… That is demoralizing because the enemy doesn’t have honor and we don’t understand their way of being. Who would I rather fight, a cowardly Afghani or Vietnamese or an honorable and brave… Read more »
It’s not controversial but 100% true and that is why the Jews want to eliminate us. They know that without a stop we’d either kill everyone else and each other next. To some extent they’re right but I think we have figured out white wars cannot happen ever again. That’s why they’re against us, because if we win they know we will civilised the planet like the Romans did. Also that’s why I’m pro fascist white EU. In the very long run, without a fascist pro-white EU/EEUU and a single religion we’ll kill each other. Imperium! But of course, the… Read more »
The Japanese are similar to us in a lot of ways.
I love this debate. I’m finally engaged. You guys should create some drama then get everyone onto on side or another. Then create a new show like Strike and Sven and TDS featuring Mike, McNabb and Jazzhands. All over this stupid issue over the NYT and how Jewish it really is. Super Jewish? Or only kind of super Jewish? Sven’s probably wrong, but he seems to have the momentum right now.
80% of the people polled supported invading iraq, but 80% of the media implicitly or explicitly supported the war as well. It’s interesting that we can all remember things differently despite me being right.
The early 00 media was pro having a war. As soon as it was convenient after the war started, they became anti Bush’s war.
They never became anti war, in general.
I hope Mike was able to give his take on DVDs