Welcome to Episode 87 of STRIKE and MIKE! Today Strike and Mike welcome Dr. E. Michael Jones for a discussion of race, religion, identity and Americanism. In the second half of the show we discuss the moral outlook of conservatism in America and conclude with a segment on judicial tyranny.
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- A discussion with Dr. E. Michael Jones on race, religion and identity
- Moral courage and the conservative movement
- Solidarity and Zeal: The secret to leftist power
- Post-Legal America: The dismissal of the Glenn Allen lawsuit, Amy Berman Jackson, Norman Moon, and the corruption of the court system
Theme music: "Witchburner" by Storm King
Jones is just too much of a fundamentalist who makes nothing but enemies.
I hear ya but read Barren Metal though
The second part is a repeat
Why does Striker still counter signal Azov? Its honestly sickening. They are not ”pseudo nazis” they are the real deal. Read some of what they’ve wrote and they explain the whole taking arms from Israel debacle and the reason they’re fighting Russia. Azov works with the Nordic Resistance Movement, the NPD and DerDritteWeg, Nouvelle Droite, GI, Golden Dawn, CasaPound and ForzaNuova and many many more just to name a few. They are actually out there making connections and creating a white Nationalist coalition and people still support Russia just because it’s not a shitlib country. I agree with about 99%… Read more »
The Ukraine is more Jew controlled today than at any point in recent history. Go watch the impeachment proceedings to see who all the major players are in the Ukraine. Azov’s only response to this is to demand the war murdering Russian-speaking secessionists with their Israeli rifles continue. The leader of Azov battalion is close to plutocrats in the European Union and the whole outfit is funded by a Jewish billionaire, who just so happens to be the governor of the region they are combating insurgents in, which he also has major business interests in. They are a mercenary band… Read more »
The Azov Battalion is so jewish that the US congress explicitly forbade them from receiving military funding due to their ideology. Have Olena Semenyaka on, you may say that Azov/The National Corps is useful to the west, but they are a real movement at the ground level and they should be given the opportunity to answer.
Azov Battalion is heavily armed with scores of tanks, APCs, Israeli gear, US made shoulder fired missiles, and even uniformed US military officers training them. They are an official part of the Ukrainian military. They are supported through the same mechanism the US-ZOG supported Al Qaeda in Syria: they showered the “Free Syrian Army” with weapons that always wound up in the hands of vile Islamists. People have been claiming the Azov battalion is on the brink of overthrowing the Ukrainian government any minute now for 6 years straight. All these astroturfed “ultra-nationalist” groups united to take down Yanukovych, yet… Read more »
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-VuIYiKRpJc
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=j8xBDPZ007o
The Azov Battalion is fake and gay, almost as fake and gay as the IRA. “Look at this totally based militant group that kills white people in the name of some fake and gay conflict, just ignore the fact that they’re funded and promoted by Jews they’re based nationalists goy.” Your brain has been Jewed kid.
Also Ukraine is a fake and gay country that shouldn’t exist, Ukraine was literally invented by Germany during WWI just to fuck over and weaken Russia. It never existed in any semblance prior to the Treaty of Brest Litovsk.
Azov literally get Israeli weapons. They are fake and gay and are serving the Jewish president of Ukraine
This is a white world. Whites created this world. We had all the knowledge we needed to not create this world but we did it anyway. In a way ceding power to the known enemy is even worse than losing in actual battle. Yet whites did that anyway and the majority of whites still have the heart, soul and mind of ceding more power. The challenge is separating whites with the will to win from whites with the soul and mind of the enemy. That by default means “white” is not enough. Most whites are fucking clowns at this point.… Read more »
Is this guy always so agitated when he talks to people (favorable to him btw). He just seemed cantankerous for no reason, and it lead to some rather bellicose dumb statements such as his you can’t fight on battleground the powers don’t select for you argument.
He never masturbates. Lowfap is probably a better option.
Nah nofap is definitely the way. Jones doesn’t suck because of nofap he sucks because he’s a catholic and a boomer.
So let me get this straight: by Jones own admission whites are the most targeted group of people and they are targeted by a satan-possessed antifa/jews.
My question to jones is why does the devil hate whites more than Christians?
Christianity never took hold in any non-white country, historically. And there wasn’t a single white country that didnt become Christian. Just a coincidence? Or is the white race suited to Christianity and Christianity suited to the white race??
This is both inaccurate (there are black Christian countries, and Asians are also adopting it), and silly. Of course a religion is going to spread more in the region it was founded (aided by the empire of Rome).
So let me get this straight: NAxALT and 1st century Palestine was a shorthop to Europe on El Al? Oh and I’m “silly “. Look up Nestorianism, Monophysitism all instant heresies that happened in brown areas. And … a little bit later… Islam itself which Belloc accounted to be a Christian heresy.
There are many non white countries in the world that adopted christianity (Ethiopia and the Philippines for example), and plenty of white countries that resisted Christianity and only eventually adopted it because they were forced to through extreme violence. Hell Charlemagne had to butcher half of Saxony to get what was left of it to become Christian (which as an Anglo-Saxon is something I take exception to).
Reject EM Jones and the Church if you want, but it’s a fact that all the Right in America would need to succeed is to adopt the politics of Leo XIII:
*Pro-labor
*Just wage for the family breadwinner so women dont have to work
*Anti-corporate (BTFOs of Amazon, Disney, Starbucks, Google, Twitter, Facebook, Chick-Fil-A … you name it)
*Social safety Net
*Just war (immigrants that came here as proxy warriors of the Jews the last 5 years … OUT!)
*No foreign wars
You havent mentioned whites once .. and youve already won!
Your church is controlled by sodomites and they consider you the enemy
Mentioning whites IS THE POINT!
Jones’s Logos-based politics are SUFFICIENT to defend white interests. Logos is Order and there is nothing that any true Logos-based person wants LESS than the CHAOS of multiracial societies. The Church for millennia defended Sicut Judeis Non, segregation, Pius IX wove a crown of thorns with his own hands to send as a gift to Jefferson Davis, Catholic thinkers for centuries held slavery to be in some cases tolerable but usury never. Youre letting the post-Vatican II church swamp the consistent witness of 1,950 years. Logos-politics will protect whites better than the ginned up white politics of the last five… Read more »
The appeals process is now just an escape hatch for judges to behave egregiously corrupt and pass the buck never having to face a much deserved lynching
Wow the Super Friends episode of the Mike Jones/Mike Enoch factions is postponed indefinitely .. judging by these comments.
No disrespect to EMJ or my other Christian brothers in arms, but it is extremely unlikely you will convince me that a first century Jewish insurgent was executed by the Roman government only to rise from the dead three days later. This is not a Jew on a stick comment. I’m not trying to denigrate Christ or the religion of my ancestors, but I find it very difficult to believe consciousness can survive the death of the body. SO… Even if you convince me that Catholic is a more effective identity to use against our enemies, I can never be… Read more »
Without the Catholic Church Europe would be like Africa…What a fucking clown
100%! As MANY aspects of Western political systems and especially law developed from those pay gang gang Vikings and Germanic Barbarians, as they were from Greek and Roman systems. We existed well before Christianity and would have built the world regardless and possibly stronger without it. I respect Jones, but gtfo.
Somebody PLEASE make a movie out of E Michael Jones spending a week in Guadalajara trying to convert David Duke to Catholicism. It’s the movie we need rn.
Good idea. Like a based My Dinner with Andre.
Oh wait… Andre and Wallace Shawn were both Jews …
Didn’t the corruption and general shittiness and overreach of the Holy Roman Empire and rule of Popes lead directly to the rise of the nation states? Similar to other fellow whites we know. Can you imagine living under such rule and being bled dry by Rome?
Veteran Southern lawyer has a lot of info on “post-legal America”:
https://jimgoad.net/podcast/?episode=38
Speaking of religion, lawyer Sam Dickson on the link above says that his ethno-state membership would consist of persons whose ancestors were non-Monophysite (duophysitical) Christians in 1492.
tl;dr stay out of courts ,,, use arbitration previsions where you can on contracts.
Courts are *completely* hostile territory.
Thanks man, sounds good.
You know that feeling when you have to take a huge dump, you go to sit on the shitter but nothing comes out?… that’s what it’s like listening to EMJ.
I’m still on the evolution bandwaggon. Without evolution, biological existence make no sense.
Especially when you understand that not only race but culture and gender norms are downstream from biology.
I agree. Evolution doesn’t even necessarily disprove the existence of god, it is simply a manifestation of god that fits in with the logic of the universe.
That’s what Catholicism teaches, what separates it from (at least evangelical) protestantism.
E Michael Jones is an absolute clown. Nobody will say the only thing defining Chinese people is Confucianism. Nobody will say the Japanese are only defined through Shinto. Nobody will say “black” people are only defined through…an arrest record Nobody has a problem identifying White people when gibs and free passes are being withheld. As for his cocklust for the Catholic Church, all of Central and South America is mega-cathlolic and it’s still a shit hole. …and WTF is with this clown putting his own definition on “justifiable war”? Total waste of time, this guy is a fucking joke and… Read more »
“Nobody will say “black” people are only defined through…an arrest record”
But, but, but…
what about KWANZAA???
https://www.history.com/.image/t_share/MTU3ODc5MDg2Njk3NzUxODgx/kwanzaa-candles-and-a-djembe.jpg
…fair point. I will concede that blackness could be defined through a fake knockoff holiday made up by a multiple felon.
It is actually mentioned in old Magnum PI by the black guy as a fond childhood “holiday” memory. I don’t think the CIA had invented it at the time he would have been a kid.
A-fucking-men, borther. Jones is just another angle the Jays hit us from. White identity isn’t real so love Jesus and all of the Tyrones that buy into it.
Niall Fergusson writes that the success of Nth America vs Sth America is the difference in culture/religion. He suggests WASPs are just more industrious, disciplined etc due to ethnic differences from the Spanish Catholics and Sth American indigenous folks. All that gold? All that farming land? In the hands of a few instead of middling citizens building towns and wealth. I think book is called The West and the. Rest, illiciting much heartburn in the non Westerners.
Jones didnt deny that Greece and Rome were civilized.
Strike and Mike didnt deny that Christianity had a further civilizing influence.
So I’m not sure what you’re talking about.
Well said. Jones is a fucking moron when it comes to racial realities. He’s good on American empire and Zionism though.
Next Day Gang checking in like….
…what’d I miss?
LOL! Well in the first hour and a half? Nothing!
The most heretical thing said on this entire podcast is that popeyes has a better chicken sandwich then chic fil a. That is some gamer loving nonsense
I like E Michael Jones a lot and am Catholic myself, but the stuff he’s saying is not adequate to combat bio-leninism. I can’t put Catholic as my race on a job interview. Saying I don’t identify as White doesn’t protect me from hiring discrimination. Refusing to defend myself as a ‘white’ person doesn’t stop the blood libel. We live in a mostly atheistic/secular society where a certain broad racial group is being disenfranchised based on their membership in that group. Playing word games with the definitions doesn’t help. When the Kulaks were being murdered, could they have just said… Read more »
I’m a Catholic as well and I agree with all of your points. There are no catholic groups available to us to adequately fight the system. Him saying the Church doesn’t take part in insurrections sealed it for me. This is the most J-aware Catholic in the world and he is saying this is as far as the Church will ever go to combat them. I trust my white brothers whether they are secular or Christian and I have formed bonds with many of them that I know will be lifelong. This is how you find out what to fight… Read more »
Loki .. he later clarified that Catholics do take part in battle movements … but not for revolutionary purposes … for counter-revolutionary ones. To the extent that an insurrection is a revolution against order … no they dont do that.
>a catholic with an anime avatar
You are a problem.
A solved problem ^_^
Have you ever heard “don’t be a reactionary?”. That’s all Jones is saying. Play *your* game… not the game they *want* you to play.
He’s not even in the game.
The only religion we need is a religion of the blood: the elevation of white nationalism to fanaticism. Our God is Nature, Our Faith is Blood, Our Paradise is Home. An ecofascist SS with the 88 Precepts as our creed.
An Aryan version of what the Jews have in other words.
Also Odin. Odin is cool.
Oh my god this guy is a fucking idiot. I’m was content with humoring him for his antisemitism but fuck this guy now. No more kid gloves for these people. They need to be purged now.
Aw hell yeah, borther. These fags counter signal us therefore it’s only natural to assume they’re enemies. If anti semitism were the criteria to be our ally then muslims would fare much better cause y’know… they’re not cucks. They’re savages who want to destroy all who oppose them.
Who said Muslims *werent* potential allies? The only thing I’ve ever heard is they dont belong in Western lands.
After listening to E. Michael Jones, I often just stand there…
…Thunderstruck.
I sit here missilestruck as good Christian boys bomb mudskins in the name of Israel.
this conversation was complete waste of time. I don’t care about religion. There’s millions of atheists in Europe and in America. There should be place for them. There should be place for various religions too. Your feelings toward any particular religion is not the dividing line here. Race is the line here. That’s the most important thing that should be preserved and improved upon. If E Michael Jones thinks this is a losing fight, then let him think that. There’s still nearly a billion of us on this planet. Something will survive through this nonsense of a century. Oh, and… Read more »
It does strike me as an odd insistence in an increasingly atheistic world that if anything is hostile to Christianity. Also, whites people are indeed a protected class if we go by the letter of the law and Civil Rights law. The reality is that law is not actually enforced in anything close to a robotic egalitarian way, and is subject to the mercurial whims of judges and other elities
On the subject of the Fascism litmus test, it’s also very tactical. Any power used by international finance that has any hint of military elements is Fascist. Hence why Bolivia is being labelled a Fascist Coup. Being a puppet for international Free Market Capitalism and wearing a military uniform is all it takes I guess.
After the English Civil War the Puritan Roundheads went to the north and the Cavaliers went to the south. He is a Yankee, so he only knows about the Puritan branch of Protestantism. These are Utopian ideologues that are very different from southern protestants. Yankees…
So by EMJ’s logic Black Protestants and White Protestants are one ethnic group? Christ Cucks, not even once.
EMJ’s only opposition to BLACKED must be that they’re not christians. Though how do we really know he’s opposed. He’s a Christ cuck after all. Top fucking kek mothercucker.
“people who get personally offended when you disagree with them”
That only happens to me when someone tries to blow smoke up my ass. That is Leftists, Libertarians and Trad Caths.
The divisions where White Protestants join forces with Jews is driven by economics. The White Protestants are all wealthy and have been deracinated and atomized by that money. And you start to see the same thing happening to Catholics. The Kennedy family being the best example. JFK’s and RFK’s grandfathers John “Honey Fitz” Fitzgerald and Patrick J. “PJ” Kennedy would have NEVER supported the civil rights policies of their grandsons! Hell just look at the change in attitudes towards Jews of the Kennedy boys and their father Joseph P. Kennedy! This whole story of the deracinating influence of money is… Read more »
I could not get through it. I’m just going to start with the second half. I’m going to let the comments inform me on his terrible takes. Did he say anything noteworthy.
Sam Dickson, as always, is a good barometer for who I’m gonna like or not. He would make a GREAT guest on TRS!
I am a simple man. I hear somebody mentions Ante Pavelic and I upvote.
Seriously, I like discussions were you agree about 70% with the person you are talking to. Much more fun then nationalist echo chamber.
There was no division between Black and White in Philidelphia???
OK boomer.
He did not say that. He said blacks drove the whites out because nobody wanted to live with them.
“We’re two different groups”
Yes two groups of WHITE PEOPLE artificially divided by religion!
That’s the whole point of White Nationalism. To TEAR DOWN those division and create an AUTHENTIC UNITY!
I would like to commend Mike and Striker both for thier tact, restraint, and show of respect during this episode. I have no doubts either of our hosts could have easily BTFOed this man on many of his ridiculous assertions and done serious damage to his reputation as a “rightwing” thinker. I would not have been able to show such self control, especially considering the guests condescending, and somewhat aggressive attitude. That being offered, while Mr. Jones was an interesting and novel distraction along our march to victory, his contribution to our struggle has been exhausted. Quite frankly, he is… Read more »
EMJ was much more amenable on their previous show. I’m an hour in and he is becoming increasingly loud and agitated.
I don’t think he’s used to being challenged.
At some point he needs to be BTFO. He’s not a baby. Nor is he ossified and senile. He can take it. It will do him good.
He won’t change but BTFOing him still has it’s uses.
Mike and Striker gave him good pushback while remaining civil.
Why have class when you have an idiot spouting idiotic things against our primary directive?
I’m not a Christcuck but when Jones says I have Jesus Christ on my side I’m shook
Also Golabki is pretty tasty fam
“but when Jones says I have Jesus Christ on my side I’m shook”
Dude, that’s not Jesus shaking you that’s the first symptoms of Parkinson’s disease. Get your ass to a doctor!
Little does he know that Jesus’ middle name is Tyrone but I’m sure he doesn’t mind that.
Metzger is an Atheist and is famous for saying “Your race is your religion “. If only emj got this
>Ya-NOO-ko-vich
Never change Striker
EMJ is right. He is the apostle to the alt right
EMJ is really great here and he is right, particularly on European values being catholic values.
Tell that to the gang raped white girls in Europe. Those Catholic values are paying off alright.
8/10
Jones is saying we will fail if we identify as white because we arent a protected class. The thing is that if we all suddenly decided to identify as Catholic and worked from there, they would find a way to make Catholics not a protected group and we would be right back where we started. It’s the branding thing all over again. Whatever we call ourselves (Alt-right, dissident right, paleocons, anything) the media will easily be able to make that word mean “Nazi.” The second ANYTHING starts to work, they are going to attack it.
Christianity in all its forms is for practical purposes already not a protected class.
This isn’t even debatable, Christians aren’t a protected class legally
Christians, especially Catholics, are constantly defamed in entertainment media. Protected class? Being White and being Christian are the two main bases on which you’re attacked.
If the bravery to die for a cause can only come from religion then how do you explain the thousands of European men from all across different parts of Europe who volunteered to fight in the SS in the 40’s? They volunteered because they didn’t want to see the Jewish Bolshevist behemoth overtake all of Europe. The experience of Weimar and the industrial revolution along with Hitlers well articulated message of racial socialism vs communism and capitalism obviously hit home for people. People knew what the hellish alternative to national socialism would be like. We are living in it today.… Read more »
“the thousands of European men from all across different parts of Europe who volunteered to fight in the SS in the 40’s”
https://i.gr-assets.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1348675667l/2207684.jpg
Leon Degrelle:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icTxEBUdGT8
Absolutely and there is no reason you can’t form a shared bond that makes you want to die for the white brother next to you as well.
Strike and Mike let EMJ walk all over them. White is an identity when the Jew posits WHITENESS and international Liberal Capitalism recognizes the power of collective identity and consciousness. EMJ likes to bring up the past a lot but we must be modern in our thinking. Collective white identity is the struggle and should be our focus because like it or not our world has been liberalised – that means we only have scraps of what would have united us in the past – and that includes religion. EMJ has no solution to liberalism or capitalism, or the modern… Read more »
Counter signaling Striker on expanding medicaid in Louisiana being a good thing. The income limits for having children on Medicaid has always been low, expanding medicaid didn’t change that. It only changed the income limits for adults. The limits are $17,000 for an individual and 23400 for 2 adults. Thousands of adults were automatically taken off their real health insurance policies overnight right when he expanded it, leaving thousands of people unable to see their doctor who already takes their real health insurance they got from Obamacare. Obamacare will pick anyone up in a non-medicaid expanded state, as long as… Read more »
Just another example of why “socialism” only works if it’s White. White designed, White funded and White administered for Whites ONLY!
E. Jones became agitated and started yelling at the point striker made, that atheist, homosexual communists have just as much moral zeal as a religious person. Jones’ counterpoint, that Satan is their source of strength is ludicrous, as Mike alluded to. I’m on strikers side,, that religion alone has not and probably won’t be enough to reach our goals. Does Jones expect atheists in our cause to pick up a cross and charge the battlefield?
Jones gets agitated because he doesn’t have an adequate answer for an obvious reality. If someone attacks my family I’m not willing to die to protect them expecting eternal rewards in heaven. I do it because of emotional bonds and on a very primitive biological level I do it to protect my genes. Not to mention my children are the collective sum of my life experience and the knowledge I’ve passed on to them. It’s a fight for existence. That’s also why you fight for your race.
Hell I’ll charge the battlefield with a cross as long as it’s a Leviathan cross. That thing just straight up looks cool. Satan is as fake as God but goddamn that cross looks cool. WNs are the fashiest folks on the face of the earth. In both senses of the word.
Why? Why in the fuck would you bring Jones on? He’s a bloody moron unless the JQ is the topic. People like him have a massive intellectual blind spot. Unless we’re talking about jews his ilk are worthless. They will stab us in the back once things get too hot and they’ll get down on their knees to suck jew dick. He’s a fucking idiot and our enemy. I don’t know why you guys bother with him. If you’re Christian first then you’re OBJECTIVELY an enemy to whites. It’s like telling Myles Poland you don’t believe in God. He’ll just… Read more »
Well said. I concur with every word. I’m unaware of any Christian denomination that doesn’t suck jewish cock like a rabi. That alone disqualifies itself from being considered a true and accurate form of belief.
Oh it’s a true and accurate form of belief, it’s just completely opposed to us. Christians hate fags. Who else hates fags? Muslims. So why would I pick either? Both are ok with race mixing, both want to absorb all the races and both prioritize the “beyond” over what’s right in front of us. “I love gang bangs but not as much as I love Jesus” vs “Kill the infidels, rape their women and destroy their world”. Neither has an appeal to me but I can respect the latter cause it’s fucking badass. I may hate it but hey, it’s… Read more »
With Jones’s point on religious protections when assembling is he advocating people falsely pretend to be believers to gain those protections? I’m guessing he’s not so if not what do we do with all those people who aren’t true believers?
Protections that don’t exist. It’s ludicrous to pretend they do. He’s living in a fantasy world.
Hullo big guy
Political parties have theoretical rights too and look at TWP prior to the ah… Heimbach incident.
Stomped on, repeatedly, with no recourse.
Communist sodomites haven’t lynched an AFA event yet iirc but when they do I expect zero justice.
> Protections that don’t exist. It’s ludicrous to pretend they do. He’s living in a fantasy world.
Am not sure he meant legal protection, A church and strong community affords people in that community stronger protection then the state ever could.
The dream lives on! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qotFkFIgc2M It’s not over. The Reich fell. But there is a new symbol. This is the Swastika of the Twenty First Century. https://i.imgur.com/vDS1I0o.jpg But remember, Putin isn’t Caesar. And Caesar was only a man. He was NOT a king. The Third Rome Rises. Russia has risen from the ashes as the White Mans last best hope. Hail Hitler! God bless Holy Russia! The pause has not taken hold there. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zdBxEm4cu0&list=PLwTGbZfM0TwwyNn2kHJMQnnhqWsfclakr&index=16 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDbR-_tEmr4&list=PLwTGbZfM0TwwyNn2kHJMQnnhqWsfclakr&index=123 Our BIGGEST PROBLEM in America as whites is that we don’t have a ROME. A MOSCOW! London has fallen. And so has Paris. We have… Read more »
And without power we will be reduced to bums or worse.
“Religion comes first, and race follows” -EMJ
I can change my religion anytime, I cannot change my race… it is immutable. Therefore, which follows?
Guys, with all due respect, let’s move beyond this person. It’s rather embarrassing.
Religion is only one factor of bonded racial consciousness in the past, but that was the past, when the world was not liberalised and Capitalism did not prevail. Religious racialism worked because it was immutable, not because it was religious.
If I wanted a boomer to tell me how inconsequential and invalid my racial identity is, I still have three living grandparents I could call up. Im going to listen to the rest of this anyway, but I question the utility of conversations with individuals who are firmly in the religion>race camp, especially older ones set in their ways. The anectode about America being like yugoslavia is totally farcical. The tribes living in Yugoslavia post WW1 were all living their long before the spread of Christianity. And frankly, a bar full of Serbs would take quite a bit of offense… Read more »
The problem is that Jones has a very difficult time offering any evidence that adopting an alternative identity other than white is in anyway more beneficial. He can’t because there aren’t any benefits. How has being Catholic benefited him? He’s still considered an antisemitic white supremacist. At the same time, he says that being an ethnic identity like Irish is only somewhat rooted in biology. Our enemies been working tirelessly to make ethnic identity based on citizenship as opposed to biology. In that respect, Jones is helping them. There is an intersection between the left and Jones at that point.… Read more »