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The Poz Button 95 – Blade Runner

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January 25, 2020 by borzoi

Borzoi and Alex McNabb pack as much talk as they can into a 4 hour episode as they can on Blade Runner, Blade Runner 2049, Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep, and Snatcher.

Check out my blog, Race Borz

Cover art by Leitis

Intro and End music by Stormking: https://stormkingmusic.bandcamp.com/

RSS Feed: https://pozbutton.libsyn.com/rss

Links:

https://philosophy.as.uky.edu/sites/default/files/Ideology%20as%20Dystopia%20-%20An%20Interpretation%20of%20Blade%20Runner%20-%20Douglas%20E.%20Williams.pdf

http://trumpeter.athabascau.ca/index.php/trumpet/article/view/172/210

Blade Runner 2049, Poetry, and Electric Sheep

http://www.ylem.org/Journal/2003Iss02vol23.pdf

https://web.archive.org/web/20151114070119/http://wc.arizona.edu/papers/91/32/13_1_m.html

http://www.misanthropop.com/blog/2015/7/27/the-adv-in-adventure-4-snatcher

 

 

Intro is Well Hello off of Sever the Hands and Vapor Lounge off Grim Omen. Break song is Cleanse the Metropolis  off of Grim Omen. Ending song is Escape From Denny's off of Sever the Hands.

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GBM01
GBM01
January 30, 2020 10:33 am

It’s pretty hard to squish grubs in the mud. Also grub farmer is wearing a full biohazard suit and oxygen supply while working… maybe alien larva species?

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vadhajtaska
vadhajtaska
January 29, 2020 4:26 pm

I think Harrison Ford messing up the voice-over on purpose is an urban legend. In interviews he always says that he did what he could given the circumstances. It was written after the test screening by a different guy, and it was probably recorded in one session without much context, that’s why it came out the way it did.

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Sean
Sean
January 28, 2020 4:01 pm

There was actually a Blade Runner PC game that came out in 97. It was a very in-depth point and click adventure game that immersed you into to Blade Runner world. You played another blade runner and the story was original and ran parallel with the original movies story. Very well made for its time.

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vadhajtaska
vadhajtaska
January 29, 2020 4:29 pm
Reply to  Sean

They cover the game in this episode. I haven’t got to it yet, but they say it in the beginning.

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borzoi
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borzoi
January 29, 2020 8:09 pm
Reply to  vadhajtaska

Different game, V

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vadhajtaska
vadhajtaska
January 30, 2020 4:35 pm
Reply to  borzoi

You meant Snatcher, my bad. I think the Blade Runner PC game is interesting too with it’s multiple endings ans different paths depending on the choices you make. It incorporates some ideas from the book too, like the focus on animals, the protagonist gets framed for murder and taken to a fake police station, etc.

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relikt
relikt
January 28, 2020 3:18 pm

I really enjoyed this. Borzoi and Alex both brought a lot of thought provoking analysis. Now I might have to rewatch these movies… Which is not normally how I feel after a poz button episode. Fantastic job guys.

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The Id
The Id
January 28, 2020 12:46 pm

I walked away from 2049 with the feeling that replicants outnumbered the human population

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Normie DickMonald
Normie DickMonald
January 28, 2020 11:49 am

I listened to this for 2 hours and 40 minutes nodding my head along but when you mentioned Joi and asmr I jumped up yelling “yes!” You hit the nail on the head. Back when I was sleeping around I used asmr to fill the emptyness and lack of non sexual affection. And while searching for asmr girls I inadvertently found asmr joi and almost got addicted to the point that I stopped banging tinder thots. Luckily I broke the habbit before it was too late. But it is extremely addictive and kept me out of dissident politics as well… Read more »

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Badopticon
Badopticon
January 28, 2020 11:05 am

What is a human? Is Laurence Fishburne human?

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Owen Metcalf
Owen Metcalf
January 28, 2020 1:12 am

I love Adam Jensen’s apartment

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leitis
leitis
January 27, 2020 11:52 pm

Gotta say, finally finished listening to this review on second try.
Felt asleep in the middle of Dick posting, then woke up with Jerk Off Instruction part.

Kinda like my first time watching Blade Runner.
Great episode

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Kieberoth
Kieberoth
January 27, 2020 11:32 pm

This made my commute over the weekend exponentially more enjoyable ✊?

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Ian Moone
Ian Moone
January 27, 2020 9:22 pm

Do NPCs dream of electric sheeple?

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Dutch Goy
Dutch Goy
January 27, 2020 4:36 pm

You guys seem to fall into the “history channel” mistic version of the SS. Read books of German soldier experiences, especially ex-SS and all that will disappear. No dehumanizing, pagan, brain washing, just motivated soldiers fighting for a cause.

Start with “The Forgotten Soldier” by Guy Sajer (idea for review?).

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Einsadsgroypen
Einsadsgroypen
January 27, 2020 4:22 pm

I wonder how many different stories could cone out of the world of Blade runner based on how different characters deal with the world they were thrown into, along with how the world was destroyed and brought to the point of needing to get offworld to survive

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steakpie365
steakpie365
January 27, 2020 1:04 pm

Back for the third time to polish off the last 1.5 hrs or the review. Just thought I would say I enjoyed listening to Borzoi and Alex on this topic. You nerds got a good dynamic between the two of you, a very nice listen 10/10

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The Id
The Id
January 27, 2020 12:59 pm

I remember reading Phillip K. Dick relied heavily on adderal for his creativity

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borzoi
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borzoi
January 27, 2020 1:10 pm
Reply to  The Id

I absolutely love Dick and can’t get enough of Dick, but he was a brain-damaged drug addict by his own admission.

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88showers
88showers
January 27, 2020 12:46 pm

was the inspirational art of syd mead not discussed?
he died just before the new year.

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Feminine Bulge
Feminine Bulge
January 27, 2020 2:10 am

Great ep 2049 would have been far better as a spin-off or spiritual successor the harrison ford insertion borderline ruined it

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Fatidicus
Fatidicus
January 26, 2020 11:15 pm

Great episode. Near the end of the episode there was the discussion about existential ideas and it made me think back to 2016, the election was a kind of pagan ritual, or as Kantbot put it “fulfilling German idealism”. The “we are going to make our country great again” said with pathos is actually still very powerful. Derivative memes from this were things like “Trump is going to make anime real” and the meme magic thing in general. We were going to make it real by will alone.

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Rusty Galloway
Rusty Galloway
January 26, 2020 5:43 pm

Borzoi, what do you consider the definitive way to watch Blade Runner? I’ve only seen it once almost 10 years ago and now I really want to re-watch it (pretty sure it was director’s cut- there was no narration). Director’s Cut? Final Cut? I’ve never heard anything good from the theatrical cut (and it sounds like you agree) but is there any value in seeing it?

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borzoi
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borzoi
January 26, 2020 5:58 pm
Reply to  Rusty Galloway

Final Cut is fine

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88showers
88showers
January 27, 2020 12:29 pm
Reply to  borzoi

RIP in peace Syd Mead….

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foster77
foster77
January 26, 2020 2:04 pm

Great episode boys. one of my favorites by far.
I know you hate recommendations Borzoi, but i thought the format of this episode was great and I just have to say how perfect it would work with DUNE; with analysis of the book, the David lynch adaptation and Denis Villeneuve’s new remake coming out this year.
I know Sven has been bashing the remake for some of its casting decisions but i think Denis Villeneuve is an interesting director without much POZ in his work, especially when you look at movies like Sicario and Blade Runner.

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Matamoros
Matamoros
January 26, 2020 12:59 pm

Spencer’s take on BladeRunner was also very good — https://www.spreaker.com/user/altright/less-human-than-human

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Kieberoth
Kieberoth
January 28, 2020 11:13 am
Reply to  Matamoros

It’s two hours of Mark Brahmin talking about how everything about the movie is Jewish and Christianity is bad.

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mmbig grug hank
mmbig grug hank
January 26, 2020 11:56 am

Not for nothin, this was a classic Poz Button, more or less.

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leitis
leitis
January 26, 2020 10:42 am

Review starts at 62 minutes

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jabbaromain
jabbaromain
January 26, 2020 5:35 am

HE’LL YEAH

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albinoavian
albinoavian
January 26, 2020 2:48 am

These niggas better not pan 2049.

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albinoavian
albinoavian
January 27, 2020 1:34 am
Reply to  albinoavian

So I laughed real hard at you guys saying that the original bladerunner was better than 2049 while at the same time admitting that 2049 was more emotionally resonate with the audience.

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Barb Spurlock
Barb Spurlock
January 26, 2020 1:01 am

Do people unironically like Abigale Shapiro? Honestly just kill yourself if so. JFC.

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leitis
leitis
January 27, 2020 11:47 pm
Reply to  Barb Spurlock

She has the greatest ratio of cute frontal face to ugly yid beak side view ever.

When she’s in makeup
And milkers are showing

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Radicalized_Normie
Radicalized_Normie
January 25, 2020 8:23 pm

I’m home with the flu was there a third rail today

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Dr. Krieger
Dr. Krieger
January 25, 2020 8:31 pm
Reply to  Radicalized_Normie

Hope it’s not the Kung Flu.

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HonkeyKong
HonkeyKong
January 25, 2020 9:05 pm
Reply to  Radicalized_Normie

Postponed until tomorrow.

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uber1alles
uber1alles
January 26, 2020 12:31 am
Reply to  HonkeyKong

Holy shit I can catch The Third Rail live, I’m pumped.

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Rusty Galloway
Rusty Galloway
January 25, 2020 8:00 pm

29:15
“How many electricians do you know that are mentally deficient?”

Not cool man. The paranormies aren’t THAT grug brained

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Dr. Krieger
Dr. Krieger
January 25, 2020 8:32 pm
Reply to  Rusty Galloway

Sparky here. I know a few seriously deficient electricians.

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Bill Carson
Bill Carson
January 25, 2020 7:49 pm

Borzoi, I’m curious, is the Boscovich in your handle a reference to Ruggero Guiseppe Boscovich? I’ve just recently become acquainted with his work, A Theory of Natural Philosophy (1758), it’s astounding.

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borzoi
Author
borzoi
January 25, 2020 10:01 pm
Reply to  Bill Carson

No. I had a friend with the last name Boskovic. That’s literally it.

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physiognomy
physiognomy
January 25, 2020 5:59 pm

two of my favorite bros talking about PKD for four hours? well slap me in the ass and call me sally. this is fantastic!

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borzoi
Author
borzoi
January 25, 2020 4:38 pm

There’s a direct download in the notes. Don’t complain that it doesn’t work. I’m aware of the Zencast issues. Reuploading all of the Poz Buttons and TPS episodes is on my docket.

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commodvsdetritvs
commodvsdetritvs
January 25, 2020 5:16 pm
Reply to  borzoi

The download link directly below the embedded player worked for me, although I did have to copy and paste the episode title to replace the gibberish filename

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leitis
leitis
January 25, 2020 4:11 pm

Borzoi, would you consider yourself a Big Dick Fan?

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borzoi
Author
borzoi
January 25, 2020 4:37 pm
Reply to  leitis

Big fan of Dick. I love Dick.

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pinemarten
pinemarten
January 25, 2020 8:19 pm
Reply to  borzoi

Well shoot me with a pink laser.

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GoetheBruchs
GoetheBruchs
January 25, 2020 3:51 pm

Borzoi I’m sorry to always be the pronunciation nerd but it’s AFF-ect…… shallow AFFect, stress on first syllable…….. why on Earth the psychological crowd decided to create another new meaning for the word “affect” (as in to affECT something), when there was already so much confusion with effect (like the effECT one creates, or to effECT an AFFectation lol) – completely bonkers…. but yes, the noun ‘affect’ stresses the first syllable

sorry lolz

great stuff guys!!!!!!!

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borzoi
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borzoi
January 25, 2020 4:30 pm
Reply to  GoetheBruchs

I was pretty drunk in my defense

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GoetheBruchs
GoetheBruchs
January 25, 2020 7:25 pm
Reply to  borzoi

This is a wonderful conversation, so many innovative turns. For what it’s worth, I couldn’t agree more about the necessity of vitalism for any form of usable feminism or even basic female dignity. The TERF-wars are definitely something we have to wade in on. Didn’t realise you liked Kafka. I’ll be honest, I’m still on the journey and so I’m experiencing some serious problems relating to Jewish artists, certainly including Kafka but also Mahler/Mendelssohn, and I do hope to get over it. I darecen’t re-read Broch’s “The Sleepwalkers” while I’m in this mindset, but do you like it by any… Read more »

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Dowitcher Aneroid
Dowitcher Aneroid
January 25, 2020 5:45 pm
Reply to  GoetheBruchs

CHA grin

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Klogg
Klogg
January 25, 2020 3:13 pm

I met Rutger once briefly at a convention. Nice guy. Got his autograph.

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Kent
Kent
January 25, 2020 2:52 pm

RIP Rutger Hauer

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Dr. Krieger
Dr. Krieger
January 25, 2020 1:56 pm

It’s good. But my sponsored “M” episode is still the best.

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Irredeemable lickspittle
Irredeemable lickspittle
January 25, 2020 11:14 am

FOur hours of McNabb, Borzoopers, and Blade Runner? Oh fuck yes

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Radicalized_Normie
Radicalized_Normie
January 25, 2020 11:13 am

Blade Runner: 1982, 1 hour 57 minutes.

Blade Runner Autistic Recap: 2020, 4 hours 3 minutes.

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borzoi
Author
borzoi
January 25, 2020 11:16 am
Reply to  Radicalized_Normie

AKSHYUALLY the Blade Runner recap is only 1 hour.

I cover two movies, a book, and a video game

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